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1 elizajane  Sun, Mar 4, 2012 2:23:05pm

Of course we can't have 50 different marriage laws, just like we can't have 50 different gun laws, 50 different public school systems, 50 different sets of driving regulations, 50 different health insurance exchanges....

Rick, you are grasping at straws, man! Your side has LOST. Get some therapy to deal with it.

2 dragonfire1981  Sun, Mar 4, 2012 2:28:02pm

Wait wait wait.

I'm confused.

Rick Santorum says we need one Federal marriage law, that we can't have 50 different state laws.

But on the other hand these are the same Republicans who constantly prattle on about "States rights" and seem to be perfectly happy with 50 different immigration laws, 50 different abortion laws, 50 different health care laws...

You get the point.

3 docproto48  Sun, Mar 4, 2012 2:29:07pm

HEY RICK
I thought you were all for states rights!

4 aagcobb  Sun, Mar 4, 2012 2:53:46pm

re: #3 docproto48

HEY RICK
I thought you were all for states rights!

The states absolutely have the right to enforce God's laws as interpreted by Frothy./

5 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 4, 2012 3:38:56pm

I am so surprised by this. /

6 CuriousLurker  Sun, Mar 4, 2012 4:00:01pm

Big government, yay! Unless you're a Democrat, in which case it's time to start shouting about how big government is tyrannical & oppressive and state's rights are of the utmost importance.

You know what I think Santorum should do? He should double down and go after divorce too. I mean, if there shouldn't be 50 different marriage laws, how can you have 50 different divorce laws? Let's have some consistency here.

Since opposition to same-sex marriage is largely based on religious grounds (as far as I can tell), then I say Mr. Santorum should reach out to all the religious folks who are against it—Protestant, Catholic, Evangelical, non-Evangelical, Mormon, Muslim, Jewish, etc.—and inform them that a new federal law is going to be attached to DOMA. He should explain that this new law will mandate who can get divorced and under which circumstances, therefore people need to contact their local representatives regarding what they think it should entail because everyone will be required to abide by it and state's rights won't apply.

Then grab a bowl of popcorn & your favorite beverage and watch the hilarity ensue. I'll bet you 10K of Mitt Romney's pocket change that Mr. Santorum would immediately become the most universally hated & reviled man in America.

7 Lidane  Sun, Mar 4, 2012 4:24:42pm

History will look back on the debate over gay marriage and wonder why it was ever an issue.

These people are post-mortem, still fighting battles and wars that were won a long, long time ago by the other side. They're relics.

8 calochortus  Sun, Mar 4, 2012 5:31:37pm

Cool, what else shall we make retroactive? We can change tax rates, ticket people for driving at the former speed limit on the freeway after we lower it retroactively, and maybe strip former congressmen of their benefits.
Or we could stick to to marriage and retroactively make interfaith marriages illegal. Or maybe pick ones where last names start with different letters to nullify. Have fun with it! /

9 celticdragon  Sun, Mar 4, 2012 7:39:06pm

re: #4 Weareallslutsnow

The states absolutely have the right to enforce God's laws as interpreted by Frothy./

You are joking...but that is actually what he sincerely believes.

Rick Santorum's description of President Obama's "phony theology" is by now famous. He immediately defended his choice of words by saying that they applied not to the president's religion but rather to radical environmentalists. Looking at what he said in context, the defense is, basically, sound. That's not surprising. Rick Santorum does not throw around the word "theology" lightly.

More than any other candidate, theology -- particularly the theology of St. Augustine (354-430) -- infuses his message and shapes his worldview. Other commentators have noted this affinity, but they have focused specifically on Augustine and sex, or rather, sexual repression.

Augustine's influence, however, goes beyond the carnal. It's not just about Santorum's odd pronouncements about fornication. It's everywhere. Don't get me wrong. Santorum is no Augustinian scholar, but whether through schooling or churchgoing, his habits of thought reveal fundamentally Augustinian patterns.

Few modern statements sound more like Augustine than this one, taken from an editorial Santorum penned in 2007: "Our Constitution granted unprecedented liberty to the individual. But liberty without virtue devolves into license; and license, into chaos." The diction is John Locke's, but the spirit is pure Augustine.

In the eyes of Augustine and his intellectual heirs, the concept of "liberty" was closely intertwined with free will. It is the classic theological question: If God is omniscient and omnipotent, can human beings truly be called free?

Augustine finessed this problem by changing the terms of debate. Man is free, but there is a difference between man's freedom and God's freedom. No man truly enjoys liberty unless he does what God tells him to do. If he follows his personal inclinations, then he is enslaved to his own fetid desires. The virtuous follow God's will, and their obedience makes them free. Freedom without obedience is sin, and sin is slavery.


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